Stampante 3D FLSUN Q5 Delta con sistema di livellamento automatico, touch screen, dimensioni di stampa 200x200mm ...

Stampante ottima, facilissima da montare, infatti nella confezione troviamo già i tre assi pronti per essere avvitati ai due piani (quello di stampa e quello superiore dov'è contenuta tutta l'elettronica). Inoltre nella confezione troviamo lo strumento per l'auto calibrazione, una tronchesina e una spatola di metallo utile a staccare le stampe dal piatto. Quest'ultima quasi mai usata perché i materiali del piatto permettono di staccare le stampe dal piatto facilmente non appena si raffredda.

Però non è tutto oro ciò che luccica, infatti la stampante risulta un po' rumorosa, sia la ventola di raffreddamento della scheda madre che quella dell'estrusore sono molto rumorose, così come il driver che porta il filamento all'estrusore a differenza di quelli usati per le assi che invece sono molto silenziosi.
Ho avuto inoltre qualche difficoltà con l'utilizzo del touchscreen che non sempre riesce a captare i tocchi.

Consiglio la stampante a chi vuole affacciarsi al mondo della stampa 3d, i risultati ottenuti sono ottimi e il piatto è abbastanza grande, il volume di stampa è un cilindro di diametro 200 mm e altezza 200mm, ciò permette di stampare quasi tutto senza particolari problemi.

Eccellente, da 1 a 10 voto: 11

Paolo

Recensito in Italia il 28 ottobre 2022

Mi e' piaciuto tutto, non ha difetti, veloce da montare, facile da usare, economica e super performante

Recensito in Italia il 24 aprile 2022

La stampante è facilissima da montare (ho impiegato 15 minuti) funziona perfettamente, ha una velocità di stampa sorprendente e realizza stampe di ottima qualità se ben calibrata.
Arriva con numerosi accessori, tra cui strumenti per l'auto calibrazione (difficile da trovare su stampanti così economiche) tronchesine e spatola in metallo (da affilare per staccare facilmente le stampe dal piatto senza rovinarle).
L'estrusore è da 0.4 e se ne trova uno di ricambio incluso nella confezione.
Il piatto è preriscaldato e stampando del pla con piatto a 50-60° non ho mai avuto problemi di non aderenza, le stampe sembrano incollate!

Tuttavia ci sono però dei piccoli difetti:
Le ventole di raffreddamento della PCB e dell'estrusore sono molto rumorose, così come il driver del motore che porta il filamento all'estrusore. Inoltre se si interagisce con lo schermo mentre si stampa qualcosa la stampante si ferma per un secondo e riparte, se questo accade durante la stampa di un bordo esterno si rischia di intaccare la qualità finale dell'oggetto.
Per risolvere questi difetti la soluzione è la sostituzione delle ventole (modifica semplicissima); per quanto riguarda il driver occorre installare un altro componente hardware e andare a modificare il firmware che grazie alla scheda sarà facile da trovare (la scheda è compatibile con vari firmware); mentre per quanto riguarda il fatto che si blocchi occorrerà sostituire la scheda per intero e installare i componenti della stampante su quella nuova, così come un firmware sostitutivo.

Sarebbe bene segnalare inoltre che la funzione di ironing con cura sembra rovinare la superficie esterna della stampa perché l'estrusore sembra scavare il pla anziché lisciarlo, questo fa sì che si deformi o peggio che bruci.
(Ho calibrato numerose volte la stampante seguendo sia le istruzioni che tutorial su YouTube)

Consiglierei questa stampante a chi vuole affacciarsi al mondo della stampa 3d o a tutti coloro che vogliono provare una delta senza spendere un capitale. I risultati ottenuti sono comunque ottimi e le dimensioni del piatto di stampa sono sufficienti a stampare la stragrande maggioranza di oggetti di cui si può mai aver bisogno.
Sono molto soddisfatto del mio acquisto

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Soddisfatto dell acquisto

Cris

Recensito in Italia il 30 novembre 2022

Ottimo rapporto qualità prezzo costruita con materiali di qualità scatola e di imballo eccezionale se nota molta cura all’interno della scatola per il posizionamento dei componenti e degli accessori, le istruzioni per il montaggio non sono italiano però seguendo passo passo il libretto distruzioni si monta la stampante in meno di mezz’ora sempre che uno abbia una buona manualità splendido il fatto che le viti per assemblare i vari componenti siano tutte uguali prendendo molto facile appunto l’assemblaggio senza dover controllare i tipi di viti ogni volta , al momento non l ho interfacciata al pc, ma sia le stampe di prova e nella memoria della stampante che le stampe fatte tramite chiavetta devo dire che senza alcun tipo di settaggio particolare sono venute ottime, ottimo il fatto dell’accessorio per la calibrazione automatica come ottimo al corredo degli accessori compresi nella scatola, la velocità di stampa mi ha lasciato strabiliato posso dire soddisfattissimo lo acquisto la consiglio

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Cristian

OTTIMA STAMPANTE!

Recensito in Italia il 17 gennaio 2022

Stampante ottima, con sensore di calibrazione automatico, e piatto in vetro!! Per il prezzo ché ha è un ottimo prodotto, unica pecca è la dimensione della stampa, essendo una delta 200 di altezza per 200 di larghezza considerando che il piatto è rotondo.
Semplice da montare, all'interno c'è una chiavetta e una microSD da 4g con sopra il video tutorial per montarla se uno non riuscisse a farlo, e un video su come utilizzare il menu della stampante.

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Cliente Amazon

Bellissima.

Recensito in Italia il 16 aprile 2021

Ottimo rapporto prezzo qualità, a questo prezzo veramente non so cosa si possa pretendere di più. Le stampe sono ottime, il montaggio semplice il livellamento fa quasi tutto lei e per quelle poche cose che ho chiesto, la Flsun è stata sempre pronta nel rispondermi. La guardo e penso che a 199.00 non potevo fare scelta migliore. Consigliatissima!

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corrisponde alla descrizione

Nino

Recensito in Italia il 7 gennaio 2023

al momento funziona bene e corrisponde a quanto descritto

Nicholas lettich

Consegna pacco in atrio

Recensito in Italia il 19 gennaio 2023

Il corriere non ha suonato, e mi ha lasciato il pacco all'ingresso del condominio.
La stampante è assurda però, bellissima.

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Alejandro Mendez

Muy buena y de gran calidad y muy fácil de usar

Recensito in Messico il 28 febbraio 2023

Es de buena calidad e imprime muy bien, es rápida

PG

Great starter printer.

Recensito negli Stati Uniti il 23 gennaio 2021

I got the Q5 at the end of July. It's now the end of January, so this review is after about half a year of ownership and pretty heavy use. This printer was a gift for my younger son who was about to enter high school with a robotics program and team. My older son (an engineering major in college) has a lot fof 3d printing experience from school, but my younger son and i are total newbs. This was our first 3d printer. Since then we added an Ender 3V2 (black friday special) and a Sovol SV01. So i'm writing this review with about half a year of "experience" total, and two other popular printers to compare to.

Q5 Assembly and first print(s).
Super easy. FLSun did a great job of seeding review units to some youtubers (although not the best known ones), and just about every video included a detailed walkthrough of the assembly. My younger son watched a couple of those and had the thing up and running in under half an hour, and he was specifically going slow because it was his first time building.
Once build, initial setup is just as easy. Auto leveling was a breeze. Attach the little sensor to the magnet, and about 5-6 minutes later you're done. The printer then prompts you to take off the sensor and to adjust the Z height (another minute if that) and that's it. Ready to print.
It took another 4-5 minutes for everything to warm up, so about a 45 minute total from opening the box to seeing the first layer laid down. All done by a 14 year old newb purposely going slow. Like i said - super easy.

Print quality is surprisingly good.
The elephant and the nut/bolt combo that came on the SD card looked great to me, but then again this was my first experience with a 3d printer so i didn't exactly have a point of reference. The big surprise was how much my older son (the engineering student) was impressed by the prints. Immediately after the first two prints from the card finished, he sliced up his own models that he previously printed in the college lab using a Raise3D printer. He's the type that doesn't care about finish, and is all about accuracy and proper tolerances. After measuring and re-measuring his prototypes, he declared the printer to be "good".

Tiny desk footprint.
It's only after i got the other two printers that i truly started appreciating just how little room the Q5 takes up on a desk or a counter. My other printers tend to "spread out". They need room for a display on one side, the spool on the other side, plus the room and clearances needed for the bed to move back and forth etc. The Q5 is completely self contained in a triangle with 13" (about) sides. It takes up no room compared to my other printers, and is much easier to move around.

It turned out to be a workhorse.
Both my kids' high school and college have well equipped labs with some of the best commercial printers on the market from Makerbot etc. But due to the pandemic everything is online so they had no access to them. Between the two of them, they worked this printer like a mule. I had some things i wanted to print, and wife had discovered that this thing can make some great looking planters, so there came a point where to use the printer you had to fight someone "gladiator style". We worked it hard, but it just kept on printing.

Sadly, it was quickly outgrown.
A 200mm diameter is not that much of a build space. If you want to print something square, the print area is really around 140x140mm. Because all the electronics are on top, and the bottom of the top panel is perforated letting all the hot air in - you can never properly enclose this printer. You can put an enclosure around it, but the all electronics inside will start to bake, especially since they're on the very top where all the hot air tends to build up. My younger son wanted a bigger build plate, while my older one wanted the ability to reliably print ABS (requires enclosure). But that's not the big reason why the printer was outgrown. It was due to lack of ubiquity for parts and lack of access to knowledge base and support. As of now, one of them uses the Ender while the other one has the Sovol. They have completely abandoned the Q5, which i don't mind - it's mine now :)

Ubiquity has value.
It was only after i got the Ender that i realized how much value there is in ubiquity. Replacement and upgrade parts are much easier to find and source. Amazon has great variety of anything and everything you could possible need. Even my local Microcenter carries the majority of parts one would ever need to service or upgrade their Ender. Not so with the Q5. Some parts you can replace/upgrade just like on any other printers. Other parts are custom and are semi-proprietary. For example, the hotend is a V6 clone, but it's not like any other clone and has proprietary mounting. If you wanted to upgrade your hotend to another/better clone or a real deal from E3D you would need to perform some "metal surgery". Holes will need to be drilled and tapped in metal etc. Not impossible, but not an easy procedure and one that required tools that we don't have.

Flsun does have a store where they sell spare parts, and their prices are pretty good. But shipping is slow, and since some of the parts cannot be found elsewhere - you will have no choice but to wait a while for a replacement. For example, my Q5 needed a replacement heating block - a $1 part on FLSun's website. At the moment it's out of stock. There are no compatible replacements available on Amazon (according to Flsun support). I did get in touch with their support and they will be shipping me a new block, but it will take two weeks to arrive. Had i needed a heating block for an Ender, i could take a ride to Microcenter and have it on hand in like 20 minutes. Like i said - there is value in ubiquity.

Lack of access to knowledge base and lack of community outside of Facebook.
The "good stuff" is on Facebook. Firmware, test files, and all kinds of documentation and help from other users is on the Flsun facebook group. The group, from what i hear, is a phenomenal resource. However, this printer was bought for a 14 year old. He's not on facebook and neither is his brother. Both have no desire to join , and i don't blame them. I left facebook years ago. The only one in our family that still uses FB is grandma. Having to give up private information to an evil corporation just to get some help with a 3d printer seems unnecessary. The lack of community and knowledge base outside of facebook was by far and away the biggest reason my kids eventually abandoned this printer.

Getting a hold of support is tricky.
Even if you do use Facebook, the help there can only go so far. If a part fails and you need warranty service, you will need to get in touch with the company. This is much more difficult then it should be.
There came a point where our printer developed "amnesia" and would forget settings like auto-leveling and Z height after a power off/on. I tried emailing support about the problem a number of times over a course of a few months. None of my emails were answered. I eventually did get a hold of support by contacting the seller through Amazon, who gave me a name i needed to add on Skype. If you do need support from them, don't bother emailing, just contact the seller here on Amazon and they will tell you what to do.
In contrast, i had no issues getting in touch with Creality when i needed support for my Ender. Sovol was a bit slow to respond, but i didn't have to jump through hoops or use Skype to get a hold of someone. This is one area FLSun definitely needs to improve on.
This isn't to say FLSun support is bad, they are actually excellent - once you find them. It's just finding them is..... tricky.

Growing pains.
Young company dealing in a foreign market, so some growing pains are expected. The engineers did a great job designing this machine. The factory workers did an excellent job building it. The people doing the "groceries" did an admirable job of sourcing parts that allow this thing to come in at a great price. Customer service is ok'ish. However, ease of access to support and knowledge base need to improve dramatically, especially since the company is actively targeting beginners.
This is a young company full of smart energetic people - i'm sure they'll figure it out. For now, though, be prepared to deal with some growing pains.

To conclude.
The obvious question is - would i buy it again, or would i recommend it to a friend etc. ? The answer is both yes and no.
No, i would not buy it again for my kids. The lack of ubiquitous parts for upgrades and the fact that all the "good stuff" is on facebook proved to be deal breakers for them.
Yes, i would buy it for me. I don't need to print anything large, or use any exotic materials. The printer works great for my needs. It's small. It's very precise. It's faster then my other printers. It's easy to maintain and so far it has been proven very reliable. And for the price - it's a great value.
My only regret in buying the Q5 is that i didn't buy it's bigger brother the QQS-pro. If i was making a recommendation to a friend, i would advise them to consider spending a little more and get the bigger delta if they can afford it.

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Connor

Amazing printer

Recensito nel Regno Unito il 13 febbraio 2022

An excellent little (well, little in footprint, not height!) Printer. Perfect for entry level people, or those like myself who don't enjoy the hassle of levelling an Ender 3 V2 for hours on end.

This printer has a very good auto-level function, built in with only the sensor to clip on magnetically and plug in. It tells you when to do this and when to take it off too.

Instructions for assembly are not very good though, as a lot of Chinese originating products. They do have PDFs on the SD card supplied, but I found it easier looking on YouTube.

The printer does very good quality, and is a fair bit faster than normal/Non-Delta FDM printers. I do recommend keeping the print speed at 50-60mm/s minimum, otherwise it can struggle a bit at slower speeds. Great quality at those speeds.

The extruder is very good, if a bit noisy on 7mm+ retraction. The machine can handle feeding in and feeding out the filament with a dedicated program/tool for changing over filaments, which I was surprised that other, more expensive printers don't have usually (you have to wind the filament in and out manually, which can be an issue at times).

One annoying thing about it is that the supplied spool holder is too narrow for "True" 1KG spools, which are wider. You can find a longer one to print on Cults3D though, just search for FLSUN Q5 Spool holder, and it should come up with a few choices :)

Overall, this is a very fun and cost effective printer, I've printed a lot more on it than my Ender 3 V2, purely because it is so much easier to just set and go, no faffing around with levelling wheels for hours and then finding out you did it wrong on one corner!

ADVICE: When you auto level, the hot-end will always be at least 1mm too high up at the end. YOU MUST RESET/CALIBRATE THE Z AXIS=0 VALUE AFTER EACH LEVEL. (Though the machine does tell you to do this, but you can accidentally skip this step if you don't pay attention). :)

Jacinto

Muy buena, además de rápida en la impresión.

Recensito in Spagna il 5 febbraio 2022

Fácil de montar y calibrar. Impresiones de aceptable calidad, pero lo más destacable la rapidez de las impresiones con respecto a las impresoras cartesianas.

Remy Coppens

Réglages simples et pour longtemps

Recensito in Francia il 16 luglio 2021

Produit très réussi ! J'ai effectué le réglage automatique, puis le test de la feuille de papier, et depuis j'imprime souvent et tout fonctionne parfaitement. Niveau vitesse d'impression, j'ai effectué un test avec une autre imprimante (Ender 3 v2) juste à côté en imprimant les mêmes pièces. Quasi le même temps (la Ender a gagné ;o) de quelques minutes. Je recommande sans hésiter.

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